I am Saida Desilets. I’m the founder of the Succulence Revolution and the author of a book called The Emergence of the Sensual Woman. And what I get to do, my privilege on this planet, is to share my passion and my love, that we can actually self-actualize through our body. And specifically I work with women, with their bodies, with their hearts, with their spirits. How we can fully access our genes through all parts of our body.
Bram: And give us an idea of your flow in terms of travel. I know you take this offering all over the world.
Saida: So this year alone I’ve been in Asia. I’ve been in the Caribbean, Canada, the US, South Africa, back to Asia and Europe as well, and Australia. So I’ve been everywhere. And so, what’s amazing about what I’m doing because I’m working with women is what’s remarkable globally there’s a need for the message that I have. And so I feel very privileged to have the opportunity to go into communities and meet the different kinds of women. But the core needs are the same. They want to know who they are, how to better live in this world, and how to have a little bit more self-freedom and self-expression.
Bram: And how long have you been doing this in its current or similar form?
Saida: I’ve been working this way and travelling since the—I’d say 2001 is where I really officially launched. I was being more non-official things before then. But as an official business in 2001.
Bram: And what are some of the things you find attractive about the mobile lifestyle?
Saida: Well, I think for me, if I stay in one place too long it’s like I form a bubble around myself. And as soon as I remove myself from my environment, that bubble bursts and I’m in a place where again, it’s that beginner’s eye. I’m seeing things from fresh eyes. I get to also not make assumptions about people because what’s true in one place is definitely not true somewhere else. I’m always in this perpetual state of curiosity what’s it really like for you especially with the subject of female sexuality. This is really intriguing because each culture has its unique perspective and there’s also a global idea about it.
Bram: And you currently have a home base that you go back to from time to time?
Saida: No. I wish. I think about a year ago we got married in Maui. We’re living in Maui and we put everything in storage and we left. So, the home base is our own hearts and our suitcase at this point.
Bram: And I think I know the answer to this question, but tell us a little bit about whether you became mobile as a necessity for your business or whether you crafted the business around your intention to be mobile and travel the world?
Saida: I definitely crafted the business around my love of travel. I remember almost the day it happened. I said, “I’ve got to think of a way that I could travel this world and still make money so that I can enjoy and I have to run back home every few months.” So the business definitely had that idea. It wasn’t extremely mobile at first but with the use of internet it definitely helped mobilize everything. So, now it’s quite mobile and global.
Bram: So you’ve been doing this for a while. In what ways is the reality different than what your anticipation or projection of it was?
Saida: The reality of going through customs, of security and airports, of losing your luggage, of getting ill because of different water, maybe having some cultural clashes, these things are not so fantastic. They’re exhausting. As much as I travel I’m actually tired. Sometimes, I don’t want to see another airport or another airplane. So my preferred mode of travel even though I am nomadic is to go somewhere and immerse myself a little bit longer in a culture versus island hopping or continent hopping. So, that’s basically, yes, it’s quite a detriment to our health if we’re always shifting to climate, so having a little bit of balance. I think we can get gung-ho and it looks really exciting on cheaptickets.com “I can go there.” And buy this ticket.” You make all these plans then it happens like, “Gosh, I’m really tired. Why did I get the cheaper flight? I should have flown direct” or something like this.
Bram: Exactly. I think there’s a term for it. They call it slow travel.
Bram: ...And sink in and enjoy the culture a little bit.
Bram: What are some of the most important skills or abilities that have enabled you to sustain yourself through this, through all of the airports and customs situations and difficulties?
Saida: A few things. One, I have a massive sense of humor. I’m able to laugh at virtually everything. Getting the pat down, you know, I’m like “Oh, great! Thanks for the lovely massage.” And I sort of bring this attitude. I’m also very curious and flexible. So I think you have to have a sense of adventure because plans do change. Things do happen. It’s like, “Okay, so what do we do now?” And that’s not possible if you’re not feeling well. So it’s very very important for me I have, once I arrive somewhere I have a set routine that I jumped in to which is some physical training and making sure my eating schedule is good. And not getting too exotic too quickly with my food options so I can acclimatize. So those are the main skills to make it reasonable to travel.
Bram: And what are few of the most exciting aspects of what you do? I’m talking probably more about the offering that you bring to women?
Saida: Okay. I think the most exciting for me is going from seeing women looking and expressing a sensation of being shut down or unhappy to really blossoming. And you can see their beauty and their light and their confidence emerging. For me, that’s the most satisfying thing that simply by learning some new concepts, some new ideas, their world changes for the better. Deep transformation. And that’s beautiful and enriching.
Bram: Do you feel like what you’re offering right now is the highest form of that? Or, is it, you know, is it growing and changing and turning into something more wonderful?
Saida: It’s a yes to both questions. I feel that I offer the ultimate best of what I have all the time and I have for the last decade. But I also met a point in my life right now where I see, because of travelling globally and I see what’s going on in little villages in Swaziland and these places, there’s a deep need for paradigm shift on the planet around how we deal with women and their sexuality. So my offering is about to get much bigger and more global, and the message shifting purely from just sexuality to the whole experience of being a woman on the planet.
Bram: If money were no object, would you do anything differently? Is there a project or something that you would like to do?
Saida: Absolutely. So the first thing I’d have is a little bit more of a support team. So if money was not an object I think I would just have a few more people coordinating things for me. I’m a woman of many skills. And a project that I would absolutely love to do is—and I actually spoke to United Nations about this already so, I love to see whether they take it or not I love to just gift it to the world. And that’s providing a new paradigm for how teenagers are taught about sexuality. And that’s huge and there’s interest in that. It does require some funding to make that happen.
Bram: Do you feel that the location for your lifestyle contributes anything of substance to the world other than what you’re doing locally? As all of us travel around the world, interacting and sharing and all that, do you feel it’s actually a benefit to the world in any way?
Saida: I can only speak for myself so I feel that what I bring to the communities that I go to is I definitely bring them a world we view. Women always ask, “How do the women feel over there somewhere? Is it the same issues for them?” And what’s gorgeous is somehow this flavor because I get to interact so many different culture. I can bring what’s real. It’s not something from the TV or even a guidebook. It’s a real living experience having to talk to and interacted and even touched the people in the areas. And I think it’s very important because we can make up.
We have this sort of fluffier hype ideas of what’s going on in the world and we can get really extreme. We get angry about injustice here or there’s this thing happening here. But what I found when I would go to communities, actually I’ve been to that community and the women are actually more powerful than they’re being portrayed or whatever. So there’s a bit of realism that comes with travelling and meeting other travelers and getting their real feedback. That’s the gift we can give the world. It’s just report our actual experience and counter balance that hype media projected experience.
Bram: Is it possible to share with us what might be similar through all these different cultures and communities of women and also what might be really different?
Saida: Okay. There’s a core need for a woman to feel that her body and her pleasure is a birthright and worthy of herself and worthy of profound respect. That’s a core need everywhere I go. It’s doesn’t matter if it’s North America or Asia or Africa. It doesn’t matter. The differences lie in how the cultures deal with sexuality. So sometimes I go in cultures and they have a very healthy, outgoing sexuality. But relationally they’re weak. Or I go to a different culture relationally they’re strong but sexually they’re weak. So I can’t pinpoint. It would take me a while and name each country and tell you specifically what I found.
But sometimes I’ve been surprised. Cultures where sexuality is quite blatant, say in North America, it’s very blatant. It’s in media. It’s everywhere. Sexy. Sexy. They’re actually more shut down than other cultures where sexuality is not so blatant yet somehow it’s more natural. So I find that surprising for me. I’m like waahh. I expected really open women in this culture and they’re not or vice versa. It’s like really closed-off, frightened women and they’re really open. So, I think there’s assumptions that we make about certain kinds of cultures and sexuality. And I’m still learning about what those are.
Bram: Yeah, great answer. Thank you for that. What advice would you give to somebody wanting to follow a similar path? Or what advice would you give to yourself before you started on this path?
Saida: Just go for your dreams. I mean it’s really if you have the itchy gypsy feet it’s worth it to pick up and go. You’ll feel much more alive. Much more… Even though it’s challenging there’s a lot of things that aren’t sure. It’s not a 9-5 job where you’re going to get your money. There’s a lot of uncertainty. But personally, that uncertainty is very enlivening. And I would probably not thrive in a climate where I had to be in a 9-5 job. I feel morbid.
So if you’re comfortable with uncertainty and you’re capable of—you’re resourceful person meaning, you’re creative, you make connections, you’re very able to let people know what you want to do because for example, before I started all this business of world travel I’d introduce myself, “Hi, I’m Saida. I teach seminars all over the world.” And it was bullshit. I wasn’t doing that yet. But just so starting voicing that the dream is real. Just telling people this is what I’m doing, and then it happen really fast. So that’s another great way to make things happen.
Bram: One last question. Any last thoughts that you would like to share with the community at large of other conscious nomads and other people considering becoming conscious nomads?
Saida: That’s a good question. For me, symbolically moving their body all over the planet means means physically travelling. You could stay as rigid and stuck in your own world if you’re not willing to allow that same travel happen inwardly. So what I’m saying is if you’re in a situation where you’re really wanting to be nomadic which you cannot be, you don’t actually need to physically move your body to experience the expansion and the opening that comes with across different cultures and different ideas. You can actually challenge yourself right here, right at home. Okay, what are ways that I could see this very city or this very town differently? How could I meet people with the attitude that it’s brand new in curiosity?
So I think that’s important for me because I meet a lot of travelers and they just sort of take their little piece of home or they come from a little redneck town and little redneck piece goes with them and they bring that attitude everywhere. And I see them not actually being gifted. Not letting as Moses of the cultures that they’re in. They’re running around, having parties everywhere. That’s really, I think, a waste of time for people traveling.
But if to do it consciously, the first thing I would do is just really get curious. I mean I love people and I think my greatest pleasure in the world is to make friends in new cultures and to learn from them. What I learned from most cultures is they’re so much more heart available if you’re willing to open up. So thank you. It’s been fun to be here with you.
Saida's site: http://www.thesucculencerevolution.com